Good Uniform Info In The CG Reserve Mag

[AMTCM John Long]

This is a heads up.

I just got a special edition of the CG Reservist magazine. The cover title is "UNIFORMS". It has some excellent info and pics regarding all of our uniforms. It also has an outstanding full color, pull-out ribbon and attachment chart. The chart shows all ribbons, insignias and devices. It even includes the new CG PUC, the hurricane pin and MSS CWO specialty.

This chart (and magazine) would make an excellent addition for your messdecks/lounges/offices. :cool:

John

[BMCS Dave Considine]

Good morning Master Chief

We had a thread about that a little while ago, some good discussion happened after it was posted!

Check it out

Reserve Magazine Issue (http://cgchiefs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=740)

[AMTCM John Long]

Dave,

I must have been snoozing on that thread! :confused:

Thanks for link.....John

[BMCS Dave Considine]

I still am unsure why the Active CG people didn't each get a copy, it's the best visualization of what the uniforms are supposed to look like. We received one copy here at the station, wish we had gotten thirty.

[BMCS Ian McVicker]

When you order clothing items from UDC, a copy of the magazine comes in the box.

[PACS Steve Carleton]

I still am unsure why the Active CG people didn't each get a copy, it's the best visualization of what the uniforms are supposed to look like. We received one copy here at the station, wish we had gotten thirty.

Doesn't every unit have the Uniform Regulations Manual? If an individual member has a question, they should be consulting that first. If they don't know where the manual is at the unit, they can access it online via the Systems Directorate webpage.

[BMCM Wray Gillette (Ret)]

I was told every unit did not get a "hard copy" any more.. The manual was now available on line. If that is true, I disagree with that.. Each unit should have a hard copy, and updates should be done as necessary.

Doesn't anyone else find it odd that the RESERVES would put something like this out? Normally it would be put out by the active duty side of the house, then passed out to all...



Wray... :cool:

[AMTCM John Long]

Wray,

It looks like most of the credits on inside cover are active duty, HQ Imigary and UDC. Good thought though. It's a fancy publication. Could be it comes from a different pot of money, ie...more money in the Reserve Mag account than the CG Magazine account. My speculation only.

John

[BMCM Wray Gillette (Ret)]

John,
Is every CG unit still on the distribution for the Uniform Regulations Manual?

Wray... :cool:

[ETC Joe Jester ret]

Is every CG unit still on the distribution for the Uniform Regulations Manual?

Wray,

The manuals, from my understanding are electronically distributed. Even if one isn't, anyone can visit the HQ site and get almost all the manuals.

It doesn't matter the format you give them the manual, if they don't RYDM [Read Your Damm Manual], they will be ill informed.

What's next? The manual in power point format? Video format where someone is reading it to people? Audio format for those commuters and insominacs?

[AMTCM John Long]

Wray,

The most current DPRI (COMDT Notice 5600) from Nov06 says if it's on the unit allowance list you can/should get it. If it's not you can (1) order it or (2) go to CGC Central, which is supposed to be the most current, and download. I think the the catch is the size of the manual. Probably a pain for a unit to download a large documents (ie, the PersMan) when they can order it. Most of the smaller pubs are probably downloaded anyway.

John

[BMCS Dave Considine]

Doesn't every unit have the Uniform Regulations Manual? If an individual member has a question, they should be consulting that first. If they don't know where the manual is at the unit, they can access it online via the Systems Directorate webpage.

The problem with that is there aren't very good pictures in the Uniform Regulations Manual. They cover the "O's" pretty well, but there are grey areas in the enlisted parts. Try putting together the Dinner Dress Blue.

It says you wear the miniature qualification insignia and miniature devices, but doesn't say where. There is an illustration showing the qual insignia, but where do wear the devices? Since there is no Name Tag, do you wear that above the right pocket, on the left pocket. I made the decision to where it above the right pocket. A Photograph showing every possible scenarion is much better than the illustrations in the manual.

Bottom line is that the Reservist Magazine is ten times more informative than the manual.

[BMC Ken Gouge]

Dave,
I think a comprehensive (page-by-page of chapter 3B of the regs) magazine of the same sort would be a great idea to expand upon. I also think the dress uniforms should not be modeled by junior enlisted or JO's. there's no visual there of where to put all your stuff if they have only a national defense and a nametag...

They still have to update the uni-regs to do away with undress blue though.

[BMC Ken Gouge]

Dave,
I think a comprehensive (page-by-page, of chapter 3B, male / female...) magazine of the same sort would be a great idea to expand upon. I also think the dress uniforms should not be modeled by junior enlisted or JO's. there's no visual there of where to put all your stuff if they have only a national defense and a nametag... You could have the uniform put together on a dummy for that matter so there's no issue with a bootcamper wearing an OIC device.

They still have to update the uni-regs to do away with undress blue though.

[BMCM Wray Gillette (Ret)]

John,
I wasn't talking about "downloading"... What I was saying, ifunits were on the distribution list they would get a hard cover mailed to them...

Wray... :cool:

[AMTCM John Long]

Wray,

I don't know how the distribution list works. I would suspect if the pub is part of the unit's "allowance list", then the unit would automatically be on the "distribution list" for that pub. The Air Force and Navy pubs we get work that way. That is how we get our hard copy pub changes at the airstas.

John

[MKC Craig Thorngren (Ret)]

Wray/John,
I think a lot of the manuals are going "on-line only". I'll see the update messages for various manuals and they usuallyhave a blurb in there like "...there will be no paper distribution of this change, units can download a copy at www...". The last paper copy of a manual that I can remember getting in the mail was the EPME manual. They may still mail out copies of selected manuals, but it has to be a lot cheaper to have units download a manual as a PDF file, put in a public directory at there unit for all to access.

Craig

[AMTCM John Long]

Craig,

I've seen those messages too. That's why I was saying earlier I'm thinking the smaller pubs are online only.

Our revised Air Ops Manual (M3710) is going to the printers very soon. That will be paper and electronic.

John

[BMCM Wray Gillette (Ret)]

Craig,
That is what I had heard... if anyone has a hard copy, or I guess even one that is on line, they could look in the front and see if there is a sort of distribution list in the front...

Wray... :cool:

[MKC Craig Thorngren (Ret)]

I cut and pasted this out of the most recent uniform manual:

Paper copies will be mailed to all units underway and selected units below the Group level. Official electronic distribution will be via the U. S. Coast Guard Directives System on the CG Web at http://cgweb.uscg.mil/g-c/g-ccs/g-cit/g-cim/directives/welcome.htm, the CG Directives System on WWW at http://www.uscg.mil/ccs/cit/cim/directives/welcome.htm and a copy on the Commandant (G-WPM-1) website at http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-w/g-wp/g-wpm/Manuals.htm. Further distribution via the Internet is authorized.

It also has the the SDL in the lower case/upper case format, but I don't have my secret decoder ring... :D

So there you have it, some are distributed via the mail and some you have to down load.

Craig

[BMCM Wray Gillette (Ret)]

Craig, are you saying you need a lesson on how to read the Distribution ??

If you are still at Attu, your distribution is C:v

Get a hold of a Standard Distribution List (COMDTNOTE 5605 or it was)

Wray... :cool:

[ETC Joe Jester ret]

Craig ... The secrets are in Chapter 1 of CN 5600 (http://www.uscg.mil/ccs/cit/cim/directives/cn.html)

Wray ... the title your seeking is "DIRECTIVES, PUBLICATIONS, AND REPORTS INDEX (DPRI)"