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BMCS Burt Ford
01-04-2007, 05:39 PM
Navy times article.

Deepwater’s first new aircraft makes debut

By Patricia Kime
Staff writer


ELIZABETH CITY, N.C. — Families, civilian employees and Coast Guardsmen queued along the flight line at Air Station Elizabeth City on Dec. 21 to welcome the Coast Guard’s newest aircraft, the CASA CN-235, to the United States.

The maritime patrol aircraft, now referred to as the HC-144A, is the first completely new aviation asset delivered under the service’s troubled Deepwater acquisition program.

It is intended to replace the HU-25 Falcon jet as the service’s medium-range surveillance craft.

The HC-144A ended a four-day trek from its manufacturer in Seville, Spain, with a flawless landing in the eastern North Carolina countryside.


Spectators applauded as the quiet plane, propelled by two General Electric CT7-9C3 engines, came to a halt near a bank of helicopter hangars. Crew members were exhausted but happy to bring the aircraft to its temporary home.

“It was extremely fun,” said pilot Cmdr. Doug Nash, 45, of Wisconsin Rapids, Wis., after landing. “The airspeed handling capability of this bird is amazing.”

The trip was expected to take three days, with stops in the Cape Verde islands, Brazil, Barbados and Miami, but was delayed because of poor weather.

The minor glitch, however, couldn’t dampen the enthusiasm among Deepwater officials and future crew members for the acquisition.

“This plane looks exactly like what we expected. You’d be amazed at the input the operators had into how it was designed,” said Capt. Matt Sisson, aviation program manager for Deepwater.

The HC-144A is a multimission maritime patrol aircraft designed for search-and-rescue, surveillance and law enforcement operations.

The Coast Guard intends to field 36 HC-144s by 2017. The aircraft will serve as a medium-surveillance, medium-lift platform, with a range of more than 2,300 nautical miles and top speeds of 270 miles per hour, according to the manufacturer.

Currently, the Coast Guard uses the Falcon jet for medium-range surveillance. The Falcon can operate to altitudes of 42,000 feet and flies at 380 knots at 20,000 feet.

It covers a search grid quickly but has little to no carrying capability.

The new aircraft, Deepwater officials say, will return capabilities that were lost when previous medium-range craft, like the HU-16 Albatross and HC-131 Samaritan, were decommissioned, including the transportation of cargo and multiple personnel.

“I’d consider this actually a replacement for the HU-16 Albatross, which we used to call “the Goat,” Sisson said. “This will have multimission capabilities at anytime. It’s got a ramp on the back and will always carry [search-and-rescue] gear.”

EADS CASA, which manufactures the aircraft, signed an $87.4 million contract in 2004 with Deepwater contract partner Lockheed Martin to provide two CN-235 aircraft for the service.

Funding was later added for a third. The second and third aircraft are scheduled to be delivered to the Coast Guard in 2007.

BMC John Phillips III
01-04-2007, 09:04 PM
No photos?

Interesting that the Navy Times would refer to it as "troubled deepwater ..program"

Also, I wonder if the writer is any relation to the late commandant?

BMCM Deane Smith
01-04-2007, 11:04 PM
Interesting that the Navy Times would refer to it as "troubled deepwater ..program"


That's not that interesting. The Navy Times is close to being a tabloid type newspaper.

PACS Steve Carleton
01-05-2007, 08:13 AM
I'm already hearing scuttlebutt about the CASA!

BMCS Burt Ford
01-05-2007, 02:02 PM
There was a picture in the printed NT. Looks a lot like a small C130 to me.

COme one steve, what scuttlebutt?

ASTC Mario Vittone
06-02-2007, 08:16 AM
The journalistic integrity of Navy Times to one side, at the time the article was written at least, the Deepwater program was at best a little "troubled." So the use of the word to describe it doens't strike me as particularly sinister.

Patricia Kime is no relation to Admiral Kime.

v/r Mario

http://www.uscg.mil/deepwater/images/mparollout.jpg

YNCM Doug Squires (Ret)
06-02-2007, 10:10 AM
Mario:

Haven't we been using a version of the CASA for quite a while now?

ASTC Mario Vittone
06-02-2007, 02:16 PM
Master Chief:

The CASA is smell good new and the first models are sitting on the ramp across the runway from my shop. There have been no other versions of the aircraft in use by the Coast Guard.

v/r Mario

YNCM Doug Squires (Ret)
06-02-2007, 02:37 PM
Mario:

What were the aircraft we use to use for LOG runs between opa locka and GITMO? We use to call it a CASA.

dgs

ASTC Mario Vittone
06-02-2007, 05:57 PM
Master Chief:

I'm not sure what year your memory is pulling from, but there is a chance you're refering to the Convair C-131's. To my mind It is the only aircraft we ever flew that might be confused with the twin-engine CASA.

Was this the plane you remember?

http://www.uscg.mil/history/WEBAIRCRAFT/AC_HC131_6.jpg

They were stationed (among other places) in Miami and no doubt ran to GITMO on occasion.

These aircraft were replaced by the still flying HU-25's starting around 1982. Which is now being replaced by the CASA...Props to Jets and back to props...hmmmm. No school like the old school?

http://www.uscg.mil/history/WEBAIRCRAFT/AC_Convair_HC131.html

v/r Mario

YNCM Doug Squires (Ret)
06-02-2007, 08:04 PM
No, Sorry Chief - that is the plane that was in service when the Falcon was introduced. Use to have them fly into NAS Pensacola all the time. Remember them almost as well as the Goat.

Perhaps it wasn't a CG Plane, but a plane we contracted?

YNCM Doug Squires (Ret)
06-02-2007, 08:49 PM
Okay Mario:

The old brain isn't as feeble as one may think....

In the early 1990's the CG leased a CASA-212 to make runs between the states (AirSta Miami) and GItMO.

There is a photo of the plane I was talking about over at Fred's Place. Since it says the photo is copy righted, I have just posed a link.....

http://images.military.com/fp-photos/pix2/00323_s.jpg

ASTC Mario Vittone
06-03-2007, 09:01 AM
Your Kung Fu is strong, Master Chief. I should have caught that contract angle. Given the CG paint job, I think this plane should be listed at the historians web-site, contracted or not.

v/r Mario

PS: I am a Prospective Chief Petty Officer

BMCS Eric Guerette
06-03-2007, 10:33 AM
How about the VC-4. That plane used to run us all over the Caribbean.

YNCM Doug Squires (Ret)
06-03-2007, 03:45 PM
If memory serves me... the 02 use to be the Vice-Commandant's Airplane and the 01 was the Commandant's airplane.

BMCM Wray Gillette (Ret)
06-03-2007, 06:04 PM
Doug, I agree... I believe that was the way it was "pre" Falcon use.....

Wray.. :cool:

BMCS Eric Guerette
06-03-2007, 08:38 PM
When the 02 VC-4 was flying us around, I was told it belonged to D7. I was also told that it had been the Commandant's plane. Not a bad ride, we just had to put some of our luggage up front to keep the weight even.

ETC Joe Jester ret
06-03-2007, 11:10 PM
The 02 was also used by D2 to visit the outlying units [mine was the westernmost reaches of D2].