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PACS Steve Carleton
01-17-2006, 12:34 PM
Since this topic does in a sense fall under the Leadership realm, I'll post it here.

Thoughts?

On the United Press International website yesterday:

Adm. Allen tipped to head CG
By SHAUN WATERMAN
UPI Homeland and National Security Editor

WASHINGTON, Jan. 16 (UPI) -- The head of the U.S. Coast Guard is stepping down in May and the White House is expected to nominate a successor shortly.

One administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because personnel decisions are confidential, told United Press International that the nominee would be Coast Guard Chief of Staff Vice Adm. Thad Allen.

Allen -- who burnished his reputation, and that of the agency, when he stepped in to take control of post-Katrina recovery operations from the disgraced and later fired head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Michael Brown -- is "far and away the best qualified candidate," agreed Stephen Flynn.

Flynn, a 20-year Coast Guard veteran who went on to the National Security Council, serving the elder President Bush and his successor, President Clinton, said that Allen had been a favorite inside the agency long before his military bearing and take-charge manner helped reassure Americans that the Gulf Coast disaster area was in safe hands when he replaced Brown as the principle federal official responsible for the recovery effort.

"He's hit every button, and then some," said Flynn, now a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, outlining Allen's career.

His first job as an admiral was as the Coast Guard's director of resources, where he wrote the agency's budget and developed long range plans.

Flynn said it was in that post that he worked with and became a protégé of the guard's then-Chief of Staff Adm. James Loy. As Loy rose to become commandant himself, he was widely seen as grooming Allen, who he gave command of the Coast Guard's Seventh District, covering South Carolina, Georgia, most of Florida and the Caribbean, which Flynn called "the most operationally important" of the guard's districts.

After a year there, Flynn said, he went on to be commander of the agency's Atlantic Area, effectively overseeing the two-thirds of the Coast Guard based east of the Rockies.

But Flynn cautioned against making predictions about the nomination, pointing out that "Allen was also widely expected to get the job four years ago," when Collins had been appointed instead.

Other administration officials confirmed that interviews had been conducted with hopefuls and that, in the words of one, "all the information needed has been gathered. We're just waiting for an announcement." But they declined to comment on the identity of the nominee.

Current Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Thomas Collins was appointed for a four-year term that ends in May, said Spokeswoman Angela McArdle. She said that, although the law provided for the incumbent to be re-appointed, that was "very unusual."

She too cautioned against making any predictions. "There are a lot of qualified officers" in the agency, she said.

She said that the nomination would go through the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Technology, which is the primary oversight panel for the Coast Guard, although the agency is part of the Department of Homeland Security, which is overseen by a different committee.

Indeed, overlapping oversight and legislative authorities on Capitol Hill will pose an important challenge for the new commandant, say observers.

Last year, for example, the chairwoman and ranking democrat on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, Susan Collins of Maine and Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut, called on the administration to more than double the funding for the Coast Guard's 25-year recapitalization plan, called Deepwater.

Since it was first mooted more than 5 years ago Deepwater -- a plan to replace the agency's rapidly aging fleet of vessels used more than 50 miles from shore -- has come under fire for its extending timeframes and swelling price tag.

In June 2002, Integrated Coast Guard Systems -- a partnership between Northrop Grumman Corp. and Lockheed Martin Corp. -- won a $17 billion, 20-year contract to make the modernization happen. But the completion date has already been moved back.

Collins and Lieberman called on the White House Office of Management and Budget to ramp up spending in order to get the work done in a decade, saying the Coast guard needed the newer vessels as soon as possible to meet its new homeland security mission.

But shortly after, appropriators led by Rep. Harold Rogers, R-Ky., chairman of the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security, slashed the Deepwater budget in half in one of the early versions of their spending bill, saying they were not satisfied with the information they were being provided with about how it was being spent.

The funding was restored in a later version of the bill, marked up after the telegenic spectacle of Coast Guard rescue vessels plucking stranded flood victims from rooftops in the gulf became one of the few bright spots in the nation's picture of the Katrina disaster.

But the most important problem that Deepwater presents for the incoming commandant is structural, say observers, who point out that the conflict over information about spending is often waged between the Office of Management and Budget and the Congress, with the agency more or less hapless in between.

The Office of Management and Budget is notoriously hostile to what is called "out-year" plans or commitments -- i.e. ones that commit the administration beyond the current annual budget cycle.

The Department of Defense has a special multi-year budget planning process, which enables it to contemplate huge projects like Deepwater, but across the rest of the government, White House budget officials traditionally are suspicious of "out-year" commitments because they restrict the room for maneuver of future budget planners.

Allen's supporters say that his experience and his profile will help him navigate such treacherous shoals.

He maintains a wide circle of professional contacts across the various U.S. national security institutions, according to Flynn.

"He is known to people in the White House, Pentagon, all over," he said.

If Allen gets the job, he will also have to negotiate a complex web of overlapping oversight authorities from congressional committees.

ETC Pat Kaschube
01-17-2006, 01:08 PM
Good choice though I find the manner in which the story was released a bit interesting. I doubt anyone is suprised by this.

BMCM Stuart S. Slesh
01-17-2006, 01:20 PM
If he is the next COMDT, I think I know who the next MCPOCG will be..........

ETC Pat Kaschube
01-17-2006, 01:22 PM
Gonna share?

ETCM Joseph Harold
01-17-2006, 01:39 PM
One administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because personnel decisions are confidential,

I think VADM Allen will make a fine Commandant and this is no surprise. What bothers me is this "official". Don't they understand the word CONFIDENTIAL?

BMCS Burt Ford
01-17-2006, 01:52 PM
Who Stu? I am out of that loop.

Burt

BMCM Stuart S. Slesh
01-17-2006, 03:41 PM
Well if I were a bettin' man, I'd put my money on anyone whose name rhymes with MCPO Skip Bowen. But that's just me.

BMCS Burt Ford
01-17-2006, 04:20 PM
Thanks for the info Stu. Anybody got info on a new Vice?

OSCS Jimmy D. Belcher
01-17-2006, 06:42 PM
A discussion I heard amongst higher ups in the Officer Corps was that Admiral Johnson (PACAREA) was in the running for that opening also. Rumors can be spread by many persons.

BMCM Stuart S. Slesh
01-17-2006, 08:55 PM
Before Katrina, I really thought ADM Crea would have been the front runner for COMDT.............maybe she'll be the Vice ?

BMC Scott Coder
01-18-2006, 02:33 AM
If this goes down, it might be one of the best things to happen to the CG. ADM Allen is a great leader and has alot to offer us, and the american public. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

PACS Steve Carleton
01-18-2006, 09:10 AM
VADM Allen would make an outstanding Commandant, and MCPO Bowen will make a good MCPO-CG, now we just sit and wait for the oficial message on Flag Assignments to come out.

As for the "leaks" that is just the nature of doing business in Washington, D.C.

BMCM Deane Smith
01-19-2006, 04:04 PM
Here's the ALCOAST...

---------------------------------------------------

ALCOAST 032/06
COMDTNOTE 1426
SUBJ: PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION OF COMMANDANT
1. PRESIDENT BUSH HAS APPROVED AND WILL FORWARD TO THE SENATE THE
NOMINATION OF VADM THAD W. ALLEN AS COMMANDANT OF THE UNITED STATES
COAST GUARD TO RELIEVE ADMIRAL THOMAS H. COLLINS EFFECTIVE 25 MAY
2006.
BT
NNNN

PACS Steve Carleton
01-19-2006, 04:40 PM
And the White House Press Release:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/01/20060119-3.html

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
January 19, 2006

Personnel Announcement

President George W. Bush today announced his intention to nominate Vice Admiral Thad W. Allen to be Commandant of the United States Coast Guard. Vice Admiral Allen currently serves as Chief of Staff for the United States Coast Guard. He also served as the Principal Federal Official overseeing Hurricane Katrina response and recovery efforts in the Gulf Coast region.

Vice Admiral Allen previously served as Commander of the United States Coast Guard Atlantic Area, Fifth United States Coast Guard District, and the United States Maritime Defense Zone, Atlantic Fleet. In addition, he led the Atlantic forces in the United States Coast Guard's response to the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. Prior to that position, Vice Admiral Allen commanded the Seventh United States Coast Guard District and was the Director of Resources for the United States Coast Guard. Earlier in his career, he served as Group Commander and Captain of the Port for Long Island Sound in Long Island, New York.

Vice Admiral Allen received his bachelor's degree from the United States Coast Guard Academy, his first master's degree from The George Washington University, and his second master's degree from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

# # #

LT Arthur Nelson (MKC) (Ret)
01-19-2006, 04:44 PM
Just received in my box one of those "ALL DHS" mails from Secretary Chertoff announcing Vice Admiral Alan's nomination. Much better reading than the blunt ALCOAST msg.

ETC Pat Kaschube
01-19-2006, 04:46 PM
Looks like a good move to me. I doubt there were any suprises.

PAC Jamie Devitt-Chacon ret
01-19-2006, 04:51 PM
Does anyone know when the Vice will be announced? It's no surprise to anyone, I think, that Adm. Allen was chosen -- and I've heard nothing but amazing things about him. I think it's a good thing for us. But I'm very curious about the new Vice...

LT Arthur Nelson (MKC) (Ret)
01-19-2006, 04:54 PM
Now more than ever the Coast Guard needs a firm & loud voice. If elected, ADM Alan will sure provide it. Hopefully the next MCPO-CG will too. It's been real quiet for awhile now.

MSTCS Tom Gentile
01-19-2006, 05:06 PM
Here is a little tidbit of trivia for you all that you may not have been aware of. VADM Allen's dad is a retired CG DC Chief.

PAC Jamie Devitt-Chacon ret
01-19-2006, 05:12 PM
A fact he is quite proud of -- his dad being a Coast Guard Chief. I think he mentions it often.

LT Arthur Nelson (MKC) (Ret)
01-19-2006, 05:57 PM
I know ADM Allen enjoys engaging Chiefs. When he was LANT and I was at Key West, when Mr. Allen was in town, he would always requests all Chiefs to the mess for good sit-down discussions and sea stories.

DCCS Brett Wickett
01-19-2006, 11:38 PM
Hey LT (Art) (MKC)....LOL where you at now. I knew you from Key West. I was the DC1/DCC on the Mohawk.

SKC Ronald Brumble
01-20-2006, 09:14 AM
Allen would be great, no doubt. I would also be happy to see Crea get it.

I have a quetion, If Allen gets it, how many other ADM's out there are senior to him?

MSTCS Tom Gentile
01-20-2006, 09:53 AM
If the VADM Allen nomination goes thru (no reason to expect that it won't), there will be none senior to him. Our organization has 1 4-star, 4 3-stars and several 2 and 1 stars. How many have been in longer or Flag officer longer? Who knows other than the folks affected.

MSTCS Jerald P. Motyka
01-20-2006, 10:07 AM
Adm Allen is a scary man... I served under him as a boot third - physically laying eyes on him on TWO occasions. He was CO of Group/MSO Long Island Sound over in New Haven while I was stationed over on Long Island at the MSFO.

Some six years later, I run into him again when he shows up at a Change of Command in Cleveland.

He looks at me, squints for a second or two and greets me with my first name, and then asks how my wife and two daughters were - calling them BY NAME. :eek: I was blown away.

I think he is a good guy, and will represent and steer the Coast Guard well.

PACS Steve Carleton
01-20-2006, 10:34 AM
When I was at the CPO Academy he proudly announces that he is he son of a DCC during the VTCs.

It will be interesting to see the remaining Flag Assignments.

Perhaps we should start a poll or some sort of friendly wager on the board for the remaining Flag Assignments

LT Arthur Nelson (MKC) (Ret)
01-20-2006, 03:22 PM
Admiral Crea as Vice w/ Allen as COMDT would be a good team. With MCPO Bowen steering them as MCPOCG could prove quite interesting.

Hey Brett, I'm EO at Sector-AirSta North Bend. Great job, eng staff, and stations to support. Very professional community driving & maintaining 47's & 52's out here. Plus the only active 30' remaining in the CG.

Going from 110' [and broke 123's] country to MLB country was a change...
I think that whole stretch 110 / 123 project could be a thread in itself. Didn't get our monies worth out of that lame duck.

PAC Jamie Devitt-Chacon ret
01-20-2006, 08:24 PM
I've still got my bet on VADM Johnson as Vice.

BMCS Jim Madsen
01-23-2006, 05:23 PM
My bet is on the SEAHAWKS!!! OOPS, wrong thread. :D

PAC Jamie Devitt-Chacon ret
01-26-2006, 07:31 PM
Wait! I go with the Seahawks as well! And Adm. Johnson. :D

MKC Art Bailly (ret)
01-27-2006, 01:08 PM
[QUOTE= I have a quetion, If Allen gets it, how many other ADM's out there are senior to him? /QUOTE]


What does seniority have to do with it? Just because your senior doesn’t mean you are a better leader then the people junior to you.

I'd say pick the best man for the job.

OSCS Jimmy D. Belcher
02-16-2006, 08:23 PM
As PAul Harvey would say here is the rest of the story.

ALCOAST 090/06
COMDTNOTE 1426
SUBJ: VICE ADMIRAL NOMINATIONS
1. THE SECRETARY HAS APPROVED AND FORWARDED TO THE PRESIDENT THE
NOMINATIONS OF VICE ADMIRAL VIVIEN S. CREA AS VICE COMMANDANT, REAR
ADMIRAL CHARLES D. WURSTER FOR PROMOTION TO VADM AND ASSIGNMENT AS
COMMANDER, PACIFIC AREA, REAR ADMIRAL D. BRIAN PETERMAN FOR
PROMOTION TO VADM AND ASSIGNMENT AS COMMANDER, ATLANTIC AREA, AND
REAR ADMIRAL ROBERT J. PAPP JR. FOR PROMOTION TO VADM AND
ASSIGNMENT AS COAST GUARD CHIEF OF STAFF.
2. THESE NOMINATIONS ARE PART OF THE CONTINUOUS TRANSITION PROCESS
WITHIN THE FLAG CORPS. WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE SERVICE
OF VADM TERRY M. CROSS, OUR CURRENT VICE COMMANDANT AND VADM HARVEY
E. JOHNSON JR., OUR CURRENT PACIFIC AREA COMMANDER. BOTH HAVE MADE
ENORMOUS CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR SERVICE AS MEMBERS OF THE LEADERSHIP
COUNCIL SINCE MAY 2002 AND JUN 2004, RESPECTIVELY. THEY HAVE BEEN
INSTRUMENTAL IN BUILDING THE SOUND FOUNDATION FOR CONTINUED
ORGANIZATIONAL SUCCESS IN KEEPING WITH THE READINESS-PEOPLE-
STEWARDSHIP THEMES OF MY COMMANDANT'S DIRECTION.
3. APPOINTMENT TO THESE BILLETS AND PROMOTION AS APPROPRIATE WILL
OCCUR FOLLOWING CONFIRMATION BY THE SENATE.
4. INTERNET RELEASE AUTHORIZED.
5. ADM T. H. COLLINS, COMMANDANT, SENDS.

SKC Ronald Brumble
02-17-2006, 11:11 AM
I have a quetion, If Allen gets it, how many other ADM's out there are senior to him?
What does seniority have to do with it? Just because your senior doesn’t mean you are a better leader then the people junior to you.

I'd say pick the best man for the job.

Because, I heard that if a Jr. ADM is selected to be Comdt then any ADM's that are senior to them have to retire. I'm not sure it that is true but I have heard that from many different folks. So, I was just curious.

PAC Jamie Devitt-Chacon ret
02-22-2006, 01:11 AM
So does that mean that VADM Cross and VADM Johnson are retiring? Anybody know?

MSTC Michael Schmidtke
02-22-2006, 06:57 AM
More than likely.

BMCS Mark Stauffer
02-22-2006, 10:36 PM
1. THE SECRETARY HAS APPROVED AND FORWARDED TO THE PRESIDENT THE
NOMINATIONS OF VICE ADMIRAL VIVIEN S. CREA AS VICE COMMANDANT

I see this lining VADM Crea up to be the first female Commandant of the Coast Guard next time around, what do you all think? I see no problem in it and think she would do an excellent job.

PAC Jamie Devitt-Chacon ret
02-22-2006, 11:46 PM
That's exactly what it looks like. I've never worked with her, but have heard nothing but good about her.

BMC James M. Clark
02-25-2006, 10:27 PM
I see this lining VADM Crea up to be the first female Commandant of the Coast Guard next time around, what do you all think?

Not necessarily. According to the Historians page, only 4 out of 24 Vice Commandants have gone on to be Commandant.

PAC Jamie Devitt-Chacon ret
02-25-2006, 10:28 PM
True enough, but I think the Coast Guard would like to be the first service to do it if they have a highly-qualified admiral and the opportunity is ripe. We shall see...

ETC Joe Jester ret
02-25-2006, 11:45 PM
With four of twenty-four being selected as Commandant after successful completion of a tour as Vice doesn't bode for good odds for Admiral Crea.

Look at what happened in the selectee's AOR where the selectee was a primary player for clues.

BMCS Dennis Endicott ret
02-26-2006, 04:53 PM
Look at what happened in the selectee's AOR where the selectee was a primary player for clues.

I seriously have no idea what you mean.

DCCS Todd Holcomb
02-26-2006, 05:51 PM
Me either. :confused:

PACS Steve Carleton
02-26-2006, 08:06 PM
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who didn't understand that one.

ETC Joe Jester ret
02-26-2006, 08:57 PM
When Admiral Yost was COMLANTAREA/D3 there were a few events held on Governors Island. MARZDES became a big thing [some will say about time]. The meeting between President Reagan and the USSR President was on Admiral Yost's turf.

When Admiral Kime was COMPACAREA there was this little thing called Exxon Valdez.

Those certainly brought the respective selectee's into the limelight. I'll grant that they were not the determining factor, but the events raised their visibility.

Even Admiral Allen's visibility rose when he was placed in charge of the Kitrina efforts.

It's been said once by GMCM WRW III about looking at the years preceeding a war to see the climate that brought about the war ... I'm paraphrasing, so it's not a direct quote. The same could be said for those being selected to the highest positions.

Being Vice doesn't mean your being groomed to be Commandant. The odds are not in your favor.

BMCS Dennis Endicott ret
02-26-2006, 11:00 PM
I had an opportunity to talk to Admiral Crea once. The conversation somehow got around to the Commandant, and she remarked that people in that position have a tremendous amount of things to do and worry about. It wasn't a job, she said, that she'd strive for.

I think she was being completely honest. I doubt that she is expecting or even looking forward to the job. She simply steps up when asked and does her duty. An admirable Admiral.

ETC Joe Jester ret
02-26-2006, 11:34 PM
Their all admirable in my book.

You don't get to be an admiral if you can't navigate the political waters and have something on the ball. Sometimes fate steps in and moves one out to the forefront.

I was simply referring to the events prior to the selectee being selected will bring one on the national stage. Actions during those type of events will set one apart from another.

DCCS Todd Holcomb
02-27-2006, 11:58 AM
Now I get it :D

PACS Steve Carleton
02-27-2006, 12:20 PM
Joe,

It makes sense upon clarification, however, how would you explain Admiral Collins' selection?

ETCM Joseph Harold
02-27-2006, 01:23 PM
Joe,

It makes sense upon clarification, however, how would you explain Admiral Collins' selection?

He got a lot of recognition when they named a drink after him.

:D





jk

ETC Joe Jester ret
02-27-2006, 01:25 PM
Baring unforseen circumstances bringing someone else into the national spotlight, it's natural for the Vice to fleet up and assume the reigns. On paper, Vice has the best overall knowledge of the workings of the CG, and the like brick and mortar stores, location is everything.

It's still a political position. That has positives and negatives. A new president might want sweeping changes. Could be any number of reasons.

I'm not familiar enough with Admiral Collins career to speculate why he was chosen.

Remember, it's all spectulation till the person is named. People with personal contact with the Admirals can speculate how they will be. People viewing bio's can speculate how they will be.

Who knows what criteria the president uses to select the next Commandant. Somethings certainly defies logic. I'm not talking about the current president ... I mean any one of them. Some could say the interaction General Powell had from his White House Security Advisor days in the Reagan Administration gave him the upper hand in his selection as Chairman of JCS.

At that level, those inside the beltway have the inside track ... baring something else bringing another to the attention of the White House.

Besides, doesn't the President get a list of all Rear Admirals and they choose whichever one they want?

SKC Eric S. Highland
03-29-2006, 10:43 PM
Its official:

Secretary Department of Homeland Security annouces that Adm Thad Allen has been confirmed by the Senate as the 23rd Commandant of the USCG.

v/r