Will you seek a special assignments billet in your career?

[BMCM Stuart S. Slesh]

Can you see yourself taking that career path?

[BMCM Wray Gillette (Ret)]

I never had any desire for one... I always preferred the operational jobs...

How about you, Stu?

Wray... :cool:

[BMCM Stuart S. Slesh]

I asked for a Silver Badge job two years ago, but didn't successfully screen. I plan to ask again next year. I've been operational all 26+ years. I have a year and a half left here, then my options narrow.....
I don't want to do another small town. I don't have the body to take the beating of an 87'. I'm not certified for Multi-mission ashore, and wouldn't want a station anyway. There are no ANTs for E-9. I have too much metal in my body for the Artic runs from the Pacific Northwest.
I think my last couple of years are going to be in an office somewhere. Silver Badge would be the closest thing to operational available.

[AMTCM John Long]

My current HQ job mirrors the RFMC jobs, ya just don't get some of the bennies:mad::(

I would not want a traditional out of rating job. I prefer to be back at an operational unit too. Hats off to the folks who do choose those career paths for the right reasons.

[BMCS Jim Madsen]

I would consider a badge job if the location were right. I will have completed all my career goals with the completion of my current job. If a second star fell from the sky and landed on me, I might consider a gold badge run. Change is constant and I might like to have a voice in some of that. After this job, I think anything else will be a let down so maybe I will just hang it up. Time (and the economy) will tell.

[BMCM Deane Smith]

My plan is to submit for a Silver/Gold badge job after my tour is complete on GASCONADE. But, a lot can happen between now and then.

[ASTCS Ronny German]

Screened for Silver Badge, just waiting for orders.

[BMCM Bruce Bradley]

Well I guess my vote isn't a secret.

[BMCM Wray Gillette (Ret)]

Don't worry Bruce... as you know, most here are not secret. Some just think they are ;)

Wray... :cool:

[CWO Keith Wilbee (DCCS)]

Congrats on Gasconade Deane.

[DCCS Brett Wickett]

I will be looking at the Silver Badge positions when I finish my current billet. I just think it is wrong to have to wait until you are tour complete to try for one of these jobs. Like I have stated before, I think we are, or at least could be doing an injustice by only aloowing tour complete people put in for theses jobs. Pretty much every year we have to re-soliciate because we didn't get enough aplicants. So I have to wonder, are we getting the best people for these positions, or simply getting the best of what we have to choose from?

[CMC Kevin Isherwood]

Stu,
As I recall, you screened but were not released.

ATCS,
Congrats on the advancement. And I am happy to see your resolve toward the SB process. I was not aware that the results from Friday's SB board had been released?

DCCS,
SB re-solicitations have NEVER been due to a lack of original package submissions.

[BMCM Stuart S. Slesh]

MC, isn't being released part of the process? I look at the published list as those who successfully screen. If you don't show up on that list for whatever reason....you didn't screen. I'll resubmit next time I'm eligible, and keep submitting until I'm told to stop.

Ronny, congrats on screening,... anywhere in particular you'd like to serve? Did you think you'll look at a Gold Badge job after that?

Brett,if they opened screened up to anyone, don't you think that some people might put in a package just to get out of an assignment they didn't like? Wouldn't we be short touring more often? I also think we're only ever going to get the best of what we have to choose from. Some people who would be great in those areas will never ask for them. We currently have no specific takers for the CCs or recruiters.

Bruce, did you actively seek out one of those jobs earlier in your career?

Deane, which would you prefer Silver or Gold?

Has anyone ever thought they'd like to finish their career out as their RFMC?

[CMC Kevin Isherwood]

Stu,
We may be talking semantics here. In my mind, the SB selection panel reviews ALL of the submitted packages, culls the packages that are not qualified, then rank orders the remaining candidates. The final list is submitted to EPM for assignments. You could almost compare it to the OIC review board process minus the attendance piece :D

[BMCM Stuart S. Slesh]

I'm thinking we are arguing semantics, but the list does announce the names of the people who successfully screeened.

But since you are drawing comparisons..... wouldn't you say that the Special Assignments screening process is better than the OINC's? The Special Assignments is going to have a stake in the outcome of their board. The success of the people that they appoint is going to have a direct impact on the Board Member's future.

[CMC Kevin Isherwood]

I think the two processes ultimately come to the same result. Both provide a candidate pool for the AOs to fill their slates from.

[BMCM Ian McVicker]

I voted not going out of rate. I have never had an interest in special assignments, and don't see myself doing one now.

I will probably try to grab one more afloat tour after CIMARRON, and then start collecting that retirement check.

[BMCS Nick Pupo]

I didnt vote because, there are a couple things I would like to do before I retire. If I make BMCM leaving HAWKSBILL, I will put a package in to screen, and hopefully screen and get a follow on OIC job.
If I dont I wont have the time in paygrade for a Gold Badge job which is what I would like to do once my OIC days are over. So, I'd have to either do an instructor job somewhere or a Silver Badge, which is also part of my plan.
No interest in CC or Recruiter.

However, Stu I would seek the RFMC job if the timing was right.

[BMCM Bruce Bradley]

Bruce, did you actively seek out one of those jobs earlier in your career?


Stu, it had been in the back of my mind ever since I achieved my OinC goals. But I was committed to being an OinC first and foremost.

If I make BMCM leaving HAWKSBILL

Study, Study, Study.

[BMCM Deane Smith]

Deane, which would you prefer Silver or Gold?

Stu...I would prefer a Gold Badge (that's where my vote went), but would go to either. The potential problem (if I remember correctly) is you have to submit for SB before GB. If that's the case, I'll have to figure out which to put in for...I have 4+ years to figure it out!

[ASTCS Ronny German]

CMC Isherwood,

Thank You. I have not heard of the boards results yet, but both my detailer and Leading Chief think I will get a SB assignment.

Master Chief Slesh,

My preference is any location with palm trees, but at this point I’d be happy just to get an assignment anywhere. Will I pursue a GB job next?? There's no way I can make that decision yet without having been doing the job. One of my goals has always been to be an aviation LCPO, but at the E-8 level they are rating specific with none of them being AST. I believe there is one or two "generic aviation MCPO" LCPO billets that AST's can compete for, so I felt that the SB job would be a good stepping stone for me to get that kind of experience.

[BMCM Bruce Bradley]

Stu...I would prefer a Gold Badge (that's where my vote went), but would go to either. The potential problem (if I remember correctly) is you have to submit for SB before GB. If that's the case, I'll have to figure out which to put in for...I have 4+ years to figure it out!

Deane, unless there has been a very recent change, that is not the case. I just doubled checked CI 1306.1B at

http://www.uscg.mil/directives/listing_ci.asp?files=0&id=1000-1999

to be sure. Now that said going from SB to GB is a natural progression, but currently not required.

[BMCM Stuart S. Slesh]

Deane, I'd add in, even if you were picked up for a Silver Badge Job and later that same transfer cycle, you submitted for a Gold Badge Job and some ADM wanted you....... ADM rules.......
I think in a case where an ADM already said he or she wanted you, you would always be released from rate. I've never heard of someone not being released from rate to seek Gold.

[DCCS Brett Wickett]

CMC Isherwood, I certaily could be wrong in my interpretation. But I sure seem to remember resolicitations saying we didn't have enough aplications submitted. Now this could be that more badge positions opened.

Yes Stu, I understand it would possibly creat more short tours, and that is a cost to the Govt. While I am in favor of cost saving, I am also in favor of attempting to place the right people in the right jobs.

I am sure that a part of my frustration is that I have transfered three times since 2004, all have been relatively unexpected, or at least at times I have not been able to submit packages for SB positions. Now here I am again, waiting three more years to try again. Have you ever just wanted something so bad that it frustrates the hell out of you when it just seems no matter what you try it does not happen.

I know that in two years I will ahve a package in, it may get thrown out but at least it will be on my merits.

[CMC Kevin Isherwood]

There has always been more packages originally submtted than jobs available. This last re-solicitation was mostly due to several new jobs becoming available.

[BMCM Deane Smith]

I think my earlier post wasn't worded the way I intended...after re-reading it. I meant that you have to submit a package for SB prior to GB. I might already be slated for a SB job before the GB message comes out.

[BMCM Deane Smith]

Congrats on Gasconade Deane.

Thanks Keith.

[DCC Kade Smith]

I do not see myself ever going out of rate. I wake up every morning looking forward to teaching my junior personnel my craft. Helping a DC3s improve on their welding or carpentry skills is what makes my job so rewarding. I worried that if I leave my rate, my sense of job satisfaction will go down.

[BMCM Stuart S. Slesh]

Don't you think you could find that same satisfaction as a CC, or is it just rate related aspects you like to pass on?
What are your future jobs like as an 8 or 9? Will you always have those teaching opportunities?

[CWO Keith Wilbee (DCCS)]

Well Brett someone told me after an incident I found out about, that I should have put a package in anyhow and let them throw it out. There was a Silver Badge solicitation in Alaska, I wanted it but wasnt tour complete.It may be just messdeck intelligence but I heard the person who got it wasn't either.

ell I dont think you have to be tour complete, but I do think you have had to do atleast two years at current unit. Put a package in. I would If I truely wanted it.

I thought it would be neat to got to the USASMA then do a Silver Badge job.
But... I am too close to my max weight, even though I know I would lose it there, the Army's standards are a lot tighter than ours currently. I thought it would be an good way to go out, giving one back to the troops. Oh and I am working on the weight thing, just joined local club and manage to work out quite a few times a week.

[DCCS Brett Wickett]

Kade, I beleive you will find that as you move on and up you will rapidly start loosing oportunities to teach your craft. This is providing you move on or up. I don't know your plans. I felt the same as you for alot of years, but over the past few years my interest, focus and sense of pride has shifted from teaching my craft to making sure we have good, quality, well rounded individuals regardless of the job skill.

Keith, I have heard the same thing about turn it in anyway; however, the first stop is command and they read "member must be tour complete."

We'll just see how things go for now.

[MSTC Chris Lumpkin]

I think that a CDA position would be rewarding by providing opportunities to help advise and shape younger members' careers.

[HSC Chris Fly]

I voted for silver badge, but I'm also looking at CPO Academy or maybe a Career Development Advisor at some point...

When I leave my current billet, it sounds like the IDHS (Independent Duty HS)school chief may be open and that would be on the top of my list...

[HSC Chris Fly]

BTW- I had wanted to previously be a recruiter, but after talking to a few recruiters...no thanks! It doesn't sound like a very rewarding job and sounds like it (the command) sucks the life right out of you...

[MSTC Andrew Grow]

Yes...my current intentions are on taking a 4 year tour as a Company Chief at the CG Academy, and then becoming a Command Senior Chief at a Sector after that.

[BMCM Bruce Bradley]

BTW- If I pi$$ you off with my comments, call me....not another Chief at my unit to complain....



Not to hijack the thread here Chris, but what gives?????

[BMCM Stuart S. Slesh]

Andrew, have you talked to anyone who has held one of those Academy Company Chief jobs?

Chris, one man's paradise is another man's prison........ I went to the CPOACAD with a guy who did 16, that's sixteen, years as a recruiter, and loved every minute of it. Not the life for me, but the dream job for others......

[HSC Chris Fly]

Not to hijack the thread here Chris, but what gives?????

Bruce, pm sent as I don't feel this is the proper forum (plus I don't want to hi-jack Stu's thread).
Chris

[HSC Chris Fly]

Chris, one man's paradise is another man's prison........ I went to the CPOACAD with a guy who did 16, that's sixteen, years as a recruiter, and loved every minute of it. Not the life for me, but the dream job for others......


Meh, like I said, just what a couple of different recruiters told me. It's all good...

[BMCM Wray Gillette (Ret)]

He'll probably be a car salesman when he retires....;-)

Wray... :cool:

[BMCS Burt Ford]

Stu I voted for not going out of rate. I would just rather finish my career pushing a barge.

I know things can change so I would consider something if I did not get another river job.